To The Wives and Children of Men Who Apostatize

brailsmt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:47 pm

truebutnotuseful wrote:

Bishop West wrote:

university-induced mind clutter

ROFL. Translation:

Quote:

I don't need no fancy book-learnin'! Alls I needs ta knows is in teh Werd of Gawd!!1

Perhaps, I should mention that the first pieces of "university-induced mind clutter" for me where planted at BYU in my Church History class, by the religion professor?

Mercury · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:59 pm

brailsmt wrote:

Mercury wrote:

Douche-bag West takes a shot at Alitano Alexander here. Now granted, Shit-head West decides he will try to spin this as an example for all of his insanity. However, I have to ask if dick-head West has looked into the situation of Alexanders marriage, and all that is included with it. I will allow Mr. Alexander to answer for himself.

But, Cock-choker West, this goes both ways. When one leaves or tries to leave tscc, it is much the same. People are guilted, shamed, ostracized, and thought of as dead to their families. Why we do it is due to a number of different reasons. Each one unique to the individual.

Yet, and this is what kills me you piece of shit motherfucker, it is entirely ok for you and the church to send out missionaries, have home teachers and visiting teachers invade our homes, induce feelings of guilt to be included in your activities, and shame us through "priesthood authority" to subjugate ourselves and our families to the mormon regime. Yet when one of us breaks free, and attempts to share what we have learned or felt or discerned that differs from the church, we are no longer worthy as human beings, let alone as husbands or wives. We are a disease, a cancer, a leper, that needs to be cast off. Fuckyouinthemotherfuckingnecketernally you felcher. Right in the ever loving goddamn fucking neck.

I swear, Slipknot's Disasterpiece should be your anthem. :lol:

Slipknot: Disasterpiece wrote:

I wanna slit your throat and fuck the wound
I wanna push my face in and feel the swoon

I know, I know, I read you "ad hominen" thing above, but that is just so NOT ME..... :twisted:

brailsmt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:02 pm

Mercury wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

Mercury wrote:

Douche-bag West takes a shot at Alitano Alexander here. Now granted, Shit-head West decides he will try to spin this as an example for all of his insanity. However, I have to ask if dick-head West has looked into the situation of Alexanders marriage, and all that is included with it. I will allow Mr. Alexander to answer for himself.

But, Cock-choker West, this goes both ways. When one leaves or tries to leave tscc, it is much the same. People are guilted, shamed, ostracized, and thought of as dead to their families. Why we do it is due to a number of different reasons. Each one unique to the individual.

Yet, and this is what kills me you piece of shit motherfucker, it is entirely ok for you and the church to send out missionaries, have home teachers and visiting teachers invade our homes, induce feelings of guilt to be included in your activities, and shame us through "priesthood authority" to subjugate ourselves and our families to the mormon regime. Yet when one of us breaks free, and attempts to share what we have learned or felt or discerned that differs from the church, we are no longer worthy as human beings, let alone as husbands or wives. We are a disease, a cancer, a leper, that needs to be cast off. Fuckyouinthemotherfuckingnecketernally you felcher. Right in the ever loving goddamn fucking neck.

I swear, Slipknot's Disasterpiece should be your anthem. :lol:

Slipknot: Disasterpiece wrote:

I wanna slit your throat and fuck the wound
I wanna push my face in and feel the swoon

I know, I know, I read you "ad hominen" thing above, but that is just so NOT ME..... :twisted:

I've been there with this guy. A few months ago he posted some shit about the Ex-Mormons Worldwide facebook group. It got me all pissed off and stuff. I just learned that this guys isn't worth getting so pissed off about. He's on the fringe, he just doesn't know it and won't listen to anyone, and bans people if they tell him he's extreme in his views.

I wasn't complaining about your posts, just thought you'd enjoy the song.

truebutnotuseful · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:05 pm

brailsmt wrote:

truebutnotuseful wrote:

Bishop West wrote:

university-induced mind clutter

ROFL. Translation:

Quote:

I don't need no fancy book-learnin'! Alls I needs ta knows is in teh Werd of Gawd!!1

Perhaps, I should mention that the first pieces of "university-induced mind clutter" for me where planted at BYU in my Church History class, by the religion professor?

You're certainly not alone. Walking back and forth between the JSB and WIDB I spent a lot of time trying to calm the noise in my brain. But the science finally won in the end. Viva la Science!

brailsmt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:54 pm

truebutnotuseful wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

Perhaps, I should mention that the first pieces of "university-induced mind clutter" for me where planted at BYU in my Church History class, by the religion professor?

You're certainly not alone. Walking back and forth between the JSB and WIDB I spent a lot of time trying to calm the noise in my brain. But the science finally won in the end. Viva la Science!

Wait! Aren't those right next to each other? LOL

Try walking between the Talmadge and the JSB, its like 10 times the distance! I must be much more well adjusted in my exmo-ism. LOL

truebutnotuseful · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:45 pm

brailsmt wrote:

truebutnotuseful wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

Perhaps, I should mention that the first pieces of "university-induced mind clutter" for me where planted at BYU in my Church History class, by the religion professor?

You're certainly not alone. Walking back and forth between the JSB and WIDB I spent a lot of time trying to calm the noise in my brain. But the science finally won in the end. Viva la Science!

Wait! Aren't those right next to each other? LOL

Try walking between the Talmadge and the JSB, its like 10 times the distance! I must be much more well adjusted in my exmo-ism. LOL

Yeah, JSB to WIDB isn't a bad walk. It's just one I seemed to make a lot. And it fit my metaphor. I also spent a lot of time in BNSN. That's an even shorter walk! Like 30 feet.

The worst was having to get from JKB or TMCB to WIDB. Felt like it took forever, especially dodging all those twits who stop and chat in the middle of the fothermucking sidewalk.

brailsmt · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:54 pm

truebutnotuseful wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

truebutnotuseful wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

Perhaps, I should mention that the first pieces of "university-induced mind clutter" for me where planted at BYU in my Church History class, by the religion professor?

You're certainly not alone. Walking back and forth between the JSB and WIDB I spent a lot of time trying to calm the noise in my brain. But the science finally won in the end. Viva la Science!

Wait! Aren't those right next to each other? LOL

Try walking between the Talmadge and the JSB, its like 10 times the distance! I must be much more well adjusted in my exmo-ism. LOL

Yeah, JSB to WIDB isn't a bad walk. It's just one I seemed to make a lot. And it fit my metaphor. I also spent a lot of time in BNSN. That's an even shorter walk! Like 30 feet.

The worst was having to get from JKB or TMCB to WIDB. Felt like it took forever, especially dodging all those twits who stop and chat in the middle of the fothermucking sidewalk.

Yeah, when I was walking the sidewalks of BYU, I had a really hard time with the Sisters of Zion(tm) and their *defining* purse straps that they alway just "had" to wear.

Goldarn · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:57 pm

Self-Important Idiot wrote:

I was stunned to see that almost every single page of it contained a "carbon copy" of every other anti-Mormon's rants.

Gosh, I wonder why that could be? Could it be that we're all leaving because of the same problems?

In science, if an experiment fails the same way every time, you learn something.
In computer programming, if we can get the program to crash in the same place multiple times, we love it, 'cause we can figure out what's wrong.
When people leave the mormon church for the same reasons over and over, mormons don't learn anything. In fact, the repeatability is considered a sign of laziness. Do they really expect we should all find unique reasons? Do people that join the church all do it for unique reasons?

All in all, I'd say he succeeded in making the site humorous. Not laugh-out-loud humorous, but the shake-you-head-in-disbelief kind of humor. He doesn't realize that he only looks smart to those people who already agree with him. Nobody will ever read something he wrote, and say, "Why didn't I ever think of it that way?"

belaja · **Joined:** Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:54 am **Posts:** 6178

brailsmt wrote:

Greg West wrote:

Our apostate brother wrote impassively about his missionary son who cried for two whole days when he learned that his father had asked for his name to be removed from the Church records. Who wouldn't be upset to learn that your father would toss the sacred temple sealings in the refuse bin? It's like a death! Not only did he lose his sealing to his father, but also his mother and his siblings. It's the spiritual equivalent of a murder-suicide.

This is my favorite. I always love it when people equate apostasy with murder. It only shows that they seriously do not value human life to categorize murder with a thoughtcrime*.

* You know, thoughtcrime in the Orwellian sense.

This particular comment is one I couldn't laugh at, but it actually pissed me off. It so completely mischaracterizes what was actually written at philo's site. He did not write "impassively" about his son's reaction to him resigning from the church. There was a lot of pain in that--not only did his son's pain come through, but philo's own pain at what his son was going through. To characterize that account as "impassive" is fucking cold, cynical, and evil.

Fuck you, Mr. Spam. Although, I'm sure Jesus is proud. You really got the point of his message, didn't you. :rolleyes:

Mercury · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:41 pm

belaja wrote:

brailsmt wrote:

Greg West wrote:

Our apostate brother wrote impassively about his missionary son who cried for two whole days when he learned that his father had asked for his name to be removed from the Church records. Who wouldn't be upset to learn that your father would toss the sacred temple sealings in the refuse bin? It's like a death! Not only did he lose his sealing to his father, but also his mother and his siblings. It's the spiritual equivalent of a murder-suicide.

This is my favorite. I always love it when people equate apostasy with murder. It only shows that they seriously do not value human life to categorize murder with a thoughtcrime*.

* You know, thoughtcrime in the Orwellian sense.

This particular comment is one I couldn't laugh at, but it actually pissed me off. It so completely mischaracterizes what was actually written at philo's site. He did not write "impassively" about his son's reaction to him resigning from the church. There was a lot of pain in that--not only did his son's pain come through, but philo's own pain at what his son was going through. To characterize that account as "impassive" is fucking cold, cynical, and evil.

Fuck you, Mr. Spam. Although, I'm sure Jesus is proud. You really got the point of his message, didn't you. :rolleyes:

Mr. Spam wouldn't realize the message if Jesus stuck it up in him, broke it off, then spit on it. This dude has me really seething.

truebutnotuseful · **Posted:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:44 pm

belaja wrote:

OK, speaking of what he thinks is funny, he made another comment (somewhere that I can't find it now) about how he purposely chose a title with the acronym SPAM because it was "funny" (?) and he knew that the "humorless antis" wouldn't get it (and I guess would be offended).

I guess that is either a lame attempt at a jab to see if he can stir things up or he has one of the limpest senses of humor I've ever seen--even for a TBM.

I may have reported his trademark violation to a certain subsidiary of a certain Hormel Corporation... :twisted:

Runtu · **Posted:** Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:12 am

aerin wrote:

I was pretty sure that this person (from SPAM) had also gone after bloggers (and FLAKkers) runtu and chanson (and others) who have always been pretty even handed about their postings and feelings towards the LDS church/mormonism.

It takes a village.

Yeah, he's come after me in an apparent attempt to get me angry and lash out. Not worth the effort.

Honestly, stuff like that makes me feel really sad. Such a waste of effort and passion on nothing. It's one thing to be passionate about something that matters ...

Witch Hazel · **Posted:** Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:32 am

Is this the same guy that was spamming the Ex-Mormon Foundation's friends list on you tube? Sending links to his blog and asking us to "address our hate".

Yeah, I'm sure Jesus is proud of this righteous troll doing his divine work of cynicism and divisiveness under the bridges of the interwebs.

no thanks · **Joined:** Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:58 am **Posts:** 1083

I had a hard time reading this not from anger but more from boredom. I just found it hard to care what he wrote. I do find it amusing he counsels wives to abandon their husbands but not husbands to abandon their apostate wives. And based on a very unscientific study, of my recollections of what people have posted here. It is at least as like for women to "damn" their husbands as vice-versa.

I did find one part I want to respond to though:

Quote:

Our apostate brother wrote impassively about his missionary son who cried for two whole days when he learned that his father had asked for his name to be removed from the Church records. Who wouldn't be upset to learn that your father would toss the sacred temple sealings in the refuse bin?

Well Mr. West can you imagine how I felt when I found out that I had nothing. The sealings the endowments all of it was based on lies and manipulations. I was heartbroken, I wanted to throw up. I and my family had USED. I tried to believe but I couldn't, it was impossible to independently substantiate any of the main claims of the church. I was sick and angry for months. I had been deceived by a con man that was dead over 100 years. Who wouldn't be upset

Witch Hazel · **Posted:** Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:03 am

I showed this blog to DH when he came home from work and challenged him to get through the whole thing. He sat down and read the first line and groaned. "This guy fancies himself a general authority." I LOLed and went into another room to let him finish. I heard a series of GROANs from the other room.

He only got to the second paragraph before he gave up. :lol:

Yes Mr. Cream of Spam my loving TBM husband who has chosen to love me despite my disbelief in his faith; thinks you are a class A moron.

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