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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:54 am 

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Hello fellow ExMos!
My name is Kharism. I chose that one because of my mix European background. It's a mix and match, really. I hate the name I got given because it's too ordinarily Mormon. M**** Mormon, Molly Mormon, tomayto, tomahto.
I am currently in the process of removing my name. If anyone shows up on the doorstep, I will sic the cops on them.
I was adopted into a Mormon family at the age of 3. I was a Deaf-mute, a charity project for my hearing specialist mom to rehabilitate into a mainstreamed, hearing-aid-wearing, English-speaking kid. I find it ironic that my mom totally missed the fact that I had Asperger's Syndrome even though she knows the symptoms. She also started the induction process of Mormonizing me. Unfortunately (or fortunately) I was still f***ed up from autism, biological family vs adoptive family dysfunction, and scary judges (I hated them). I would throw screaming fits every time I was in church. Talk about early cognitive dissonance. LOL. :twisted:
Anyway, I was baptized at 8 and I'm leaving at 20. I can't be Mormon because of the fraud, plagarism, freaky rituals, and because I'm bisexual. Mormons are homophobes and my parents are extremely homophobic. :o I put in a lot of research lately post decision.
Any questions? Comments? Don't be a stranger. 8)
Kharism


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:47 am 
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Welcome khrixmarozh.

I wrote a story that has nothing to do with you, but because it's such a common occurrence, it resonates. I'm shopping the novel around now looking for a publisher. It's about a native american boy adopted by a white mormon family as a project to turn his tainted soul into purity and make him more whitesome and delightsome . . . oh and he was gay. Mormonism creates tragedy.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:51 am 
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Welcome in klendathu. Glad to see someone finally fucking posted a fucking language warning. Assholes were starting to get lax.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:53 am 
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CV Rick wrote:
Welcome khrixmarozh.

I wrote a story that has nothing to do with you, but because it's such a common occurrence, it resonates. I'm shopping the novel around now looking for a publisher. It's about a native american boy adopted by a white mormon family as a project to turn his tainted soul into purity and make him more whitesome and delightsome . . . oh and he was gay. Mormonism creates tragedy.

Enjoy FLAK

I will buy based on the premise alone.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 4:25 am 
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Welcome, khrix. It's great that you were able to figure out the bullshit so young - many posters here were well into married life with kids before realizing tscc's lies. You have your whole life ahead of you unshackled by an oppressive, abusive, cultish buncha old white guys!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:09 am 
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Hey, welcome! :]

How'd you find FLAK? Do you still live with your LDS family?

What do you think was the main reason or event that led you to quit?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:48 pm 
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Kharism, You are in the right place. When I was growing up the church had a nationwide program of putting lamanite children into "white" families and teaching them the gospel. My dad predicted it would be a huge failure, and it was. Trying to eliminate one's ethnicity is ludicrous. I saw on the adoption channel in Canada about couples adopting native children are required to take them to their native tribes on occasion, and teach them their heritage, and the rituals that accompany it. It's the only humane thing to do, really. I am sorry your mom didn't catch your problems at an early age. And I'm sorry they are homophobic. You are what you are, and that is beautiful in and of itself.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:51 am 
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Kharism, You are in the right place. When I was growing up the church had a nationwide program of putting lamanite children into "white" families and teaching them the gospel. My dad predicted it would be a huge failure, and it was. Trying to eliminate one's ethnicity is ludicrous. I saw on the adoption channel in Canada about couples adopting native children are required to take them to their native tribes on occasion, and teach them their heritage, and the rituals that accompany it. It's the only humane thing to do, really. I am sorry your mom didn't catch your problems at an early age. And I'm sorry they are homophobic. You are what you are, and that is beautiful in and of itself.

There are problems with inter-ethnic adoption that have to do with historical injustices.

But this requirement that adoptive parents must inculturate their children into their "real" culture (ethnicity) is racist: i.e., it presumes that culture (i.e., ethnicity) is biological and fixed and therefore an obligation for adoptive parents. It's just the liberal, multicultural version of racism*.

I'm not saying it's good or bad, just that it's a contradiction within preservationists multicultural social policies, which advocates of those policies refuse to address or actively deny.

*racism is (among other things) the belief that you can tell an individual's characteristics and quality based on their phenotype, where ethnic (cultural) characteristics appear to be (falsely) biological.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:14 am 
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Dawgma wrote:
Welcome in klendathu. Glad to see someone finally fucking posted a fucking language warning. Assholes were starting to get lax.

Lol. I have to admit I thought, "how sweet, someone thinks they need to post a language warning on flak." (Awesome that you did though, K, not knowing how wicked we are here :wink: and not wanting to offend.)

Welcome! So glad you are here.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:22 pm 
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Thanks for educating me on ethnic issues. I must say I've been more in the dark than I thought. My children are biracial, and it has been hugely important for them to have a connection to the other part of their existence. When I say the other part, I mean not the white, blue eyed mother, me, that they have, but the filipino father they have. They feel a good deal at home with that culture, and even in that country, and it has to be something genetic that allows a person to thrive in 105 degree heat, riding a bicycle to work and back, and not even break a sweat. So I think of those things on occasion. My sister in law is Swede, and functions very well in cold country where her forbearers landed. Actually prefers it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:15 am 

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Hello, everyone!
I might be 20, but I feel 40 already. Not because I smoke, but because I have carried the lonely burden of being the only deaf child in the late '90s having learned, from the time I was 2 until I was 5, to speak English similar to my peers in Northern Utah. I was adopted as a Mormon project, a counterpart to the Native American version. Interesting. I learned something new and experienced another of life's ironies.
Having the IQ of 152, congenital hearing defect, and Asperger's Syndrome to result in a savant, I was isolated by differences of hearing ability, language grade, mental health, and emotional stability. I was alone to wade through the drama with just my instincts. I'm not biracial, but the deaf have so much of their own culture that you might as well list them as a separate race. But Deaf family history was rudely interrupted by 2 hearing generations.
Interesting that it was mentioned that most exmormons are more likely to be older and have families at the time. I'm actually old enough to marry and I haven't. However, I did know that this forum is likely to match with my wickedness even in swearing very colorfully. Before registering, I read the rules concerning swearing and thought it was fair. So I post the warning in respect to the owner's of this house, and do my best to get along with all, no matter what.
Thanks for the welcome, all of you. I look forward to many conversations in the future. I'm glad I figured it out young, but I can still use the advice. :)
Kharism


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:19 am 
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khrixmarozh wrote:
Hello, everyone!
I might be 20, but I feel 40 already. Not because I smoke, but because I have carried the lonely burden of being the only deaf child in the late '90s having learned, from the time I was 2 until I was 5, to speak English similar to my peers in Northern Utah. I was adopted as a Mormon project, a counterpart to the Native American version. Interesting. I learned something new and experienced another of life's ironies.
Having the IQ of 152, congenital hearing defect, and Asperger's Syndrome to result in a savant, I was isolated by differences of hearing ability, language grade, mental health, and emotional stability. I was alone to wade through the drama with just my instincts. I'm not biracial, but the deaf have so much of their own culture that you might as well list them as a separate race. But Deaf family history was rudely interrupted by 2 hearing generations.
Interesting that it was mentioned that most exmormons are more likely to be older and have families at the time. I'm actually old enough to marry and I haven't. However, I did know that this forum is likely to match with my wickedness even in swearing very colorfully. Before registering, I read the rules concerning swearing and thought it was fair. So I post the warning in respect to the owner's of this house, and do my best to get along with all, no matter what.
Thanks for the welcome, all of you. I look forward to many conversations in the future. I'm glad I figured it out young, but I can still use the advice. :)
Kharism


The fact is that we can be and often are a wild bunch. At the core of it, we really don't care what happens as long as there is mutual respect between posters.

That said, welcome.

Pull up a chair and fucking make the most of it. :D

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:29 am 

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I will continue to post warnings because language always gets out of control. And I will make the most of it indeed.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:58 pm 
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It's always nice to meet someone I can learn something from. I've learned from everyone hear, but your story is different from the rest, and the pressure the church puts on everyone from birth on is incredulous, so I'd be interested in hearing about your coping skills, and how you managed to survive the stress. You know, you have to be married and have a gazillion kids to even be close to being happy, yada, yada, yada.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:18 am 
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Khrix, I had a mental image of you kicking and screaming in the church when you were little :) I think it's admirable when kids rage against the machine. I figure they'll do just fine once their vocabulary catches up with their sense of logic.


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