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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:00 pm 
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http://www.talk.newsweek.com/politics/d ... tem=548451

Pretty well says it. MR is at about 3% national support, but has lots of $ from early backers. With primaries being moved up all the time, this one apppears to be slipping away from MR.
Most americans say: WHO?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:54 pm 
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When you speak the truth, have one foot in the stirrup.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:07 pm 
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BONIFIED wrote:
How's it going to feel when MR clinches the nomination?

It's going to feel like a Miyagi crane kick to the gonadial region. When you're hunched over if excruciating pain, I'll be there to ask you whether you prefer the dark or white meat of the crow. YEAH!


Crow tastes a lot like chicken, but I doubt I'll be having any. I don't think Mitt has a chance. I also think that deep down the 'brethren' would prefer he not get the nomination. When the mud starts flying you can bet that the less than flatering side of Mormonism will emerge from the dark depths of history. History that Mormons are trying to forget about.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:28 pm 
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BONIFIED wrote:
"Before the boogeyman goes to sleep at night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris"


oh christ. i am saving money for big gulps and hot dogs for bonified.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:46 am 
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Guy Noir, Private Eye wrote:
http://www.talk.newsweek.com/politics/default.asp?item=548451

Pretty well says it. MR is at about 3% national support, but has lots of $ from early backers. With primaries being moved up all the time, this one apppears to be slipping away from MR.

Most americans say: WHO?


At this point in time, it really is not a problem if no one knows you yet. In some ways, it is actually a plus because you can run with an outsider image.

However, Mitt Romney used to have thirteen percent support. If the USA Today/Gallup poll is correct then ten per cent of his supporters have defected Romney. Those people are unlikely to come back.

On the other hand, it is only one poll. Remember polls are estimates based on random samples. Every once in a while a sample will be off.

In fact, one out of twenty quality polls will have a non-representative sample. That's how the math of probabilities (stochastics) happens to work out.

It's like flipping a true coin tails ten times in a row. It's unlikley buit eventually it will happen. For the same reason, some polls' samples will be off even if the pollsters neither manipulate nor commit mistakes.

I am awaiting the next poll to see if the Gallup people got Mitt's collapse right or if this was just a spurious sample.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:08 am 
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I try not to rely too much on polls. I generally prefer to gain as much impartial information as I can. Maybe fast and pray about it, depending on how hungry and lonely I am. Assess the info and if the spirit tells me something contrary to what the info says then I'll just ignore the spirit and go with what reason and common sense tell me.

If I'm wrong, from a survivalist perspective, crow really does taste OK. It's all about how you process it.

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Captain Bastard wrote:
I try not to rely too much on polls. I generally prefer to gain as much impartial information as I can. Maybe fast and pray about it, depending on how hungry and lonely I am. Assess the info and if the spirit tells me something contrary to what the info says then I'll just ignore the spirit and go with what reason and common sense tell me.

If I'm wrong, from a survivalist perspective, crow really does taste OK. It's all about how you process it.


IMHO, NONE of us should rely on polls to indicate to us whom we should support, other than asking ourselves this Q: "Is this person a viable candidate?"

Romney, if the 3 % indication continues, is NOT a viable candidate. the TV actor Fred Thompson, who I do not believe has declared, has more popular support. Giuliani is having problems with his image, etc. I believe McCain will be the eventual R nominee, but I wouldn't let that interfere with my support at this early time IF I was a R backer (NOT).

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:38 pm 
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Mitt Romney = more flip flops than an LA beach party

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:10 pm 
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BONIFIED wrote:
The better question is why must ever New England WASP running for office have to conspicuously shoot animals to prove he's really just a down home fella.



The better question is "Why is a faithful Mormon hunting for sport?"

Joseph F. Smith wrote:
"I do not believe any man should kill animals or birds unless he 'needs' them for food...I think it is wicked for men to thirst in their souls to kill almost everything which possess life. It is wrong, and I have been surprised at prominent men who I have seen whose very souls seemed to be athirst for the shedding of animal blood. They go off hunting deer, antelope, elk, anything they can find, and what for? 'Just for the fun of it!' I am a firm believer... in the simple words of one of the poets: 'Take not away the life you cannot give, for all things have an equal right to live'." (Joseph F Smith, Juvenile Instructor 48:309)


Lorenzo Snow wrote:
Killing for sport is wrong...One day, to while away the slowly passing hours, I took my gun with the intention of indulging in a little amusement in hunting turkeys... From boyhood I had been particularly, and I may say strangely, attached to a gun. Hunting in the forests of Ohio was a pastime that to me possessed the most fascinating attractions. It never occurred to my mind that it was wrong-that indulging in "what was sport to me was death to them;" that in shooting turkeys, squirrels, etc., I was taking life that I could not give; therefore I indulged in the murderous sport without the least compunction of conscience.
Teachings of Lorenzo Snow, p.188-189


And my personal favorite.

Joseph Smith Translation wrote:
"Surely, blood shall not be shed, only for meat, to save your lives; and the blood of every beast will I require at your hands." GEN 9:11


Surely Romney doesn't "need" this game for food. Surely his millions of dollars can buy him a warm meal if my meager wages can do the same.

Mitt wrote:
Shooting a rabbit with a single-shot .22 is pretty hard, and after watching me try for a couple of weeks, (my cousins) said, `We'll slip you the semiautomatic. You'll do better with that.' And I sure did.

(on the Georgia excursion): I knocked quite a few birds and enjoyed myself a great deal.


Sounds like it was all for shits n giggles.


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