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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:44 am 
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rabanes wrote:
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t is not your presence that's offensive to me; it


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:47 am 
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solistics wrote:
Whew! I think everybody on this thread should step back and take it down a notch.


Now don't you go overreacting, jesus, what's this world coming too.

Not everybody is notched up.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:50 am 
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So don't tell me that it's a human condition. It's most definitely a Christian problem.


A slight misunderstanding here, just as misunderstood about the whole prefers to speak through a "man" thing. What I was referring to was the issue of it being one's "personal duty to convince everyone else they are wrong" as in go around bashing people on teh head basically and not accepting r tolerating them unless they agree with you. That's what iw as referring to.

The other issue, of Christians believing that Christianity is true, while other religions are false is an inherant aspect of Christianity, based on the words of Christ himself (if you accept the NT as valid).

And to be honest, it makes sense. You have among the various religions a series of mutually exclusive beliefs -- one personal God, is not many personal Gods, is not an impersonal force, is not a higher manifestation of our inner selves. So, someone it seems is wrong, or of course, everyone is wrong. But it is, at least to me, illogical to look at two incompatible belief systems and say, they are both right.

It's not a crime or a heinous act to say to someone, "hey, I think you're wrong, and here's why." That's done in politics all the time. It's done in literature study all the time. It's done in business all the time. So when it's done in religion, it's simply expressing an opinion and viewpoint and belief. So, we have to be careful, IMHO, to not disdain disagreement (even to the point of someone saying, I think you're wrong), becasue perhaps we've had bitter experiences with people saying "I think you're wrong" in some nasty ways.


You just proved my point that both mormons and Christians have that mindset. That's what I meant when I said
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It is your personal duty to convince everyone else they are wrong = It is your personal duty to convince everyone else they are wrong

and that those beliefs are equally kooky and annoying.

But just because mormons and Christians have that mindset doesn't mean that everyone does. Seriously, you would go bonkers crazy talking the Buddhist Thais. I almost did. They do not buy the idea that it is "illogical to look at two incompatible belief systems and say, they are both right." Because they do that. Upon reflection of my Thai experiences, you are doing more to convert me to Theraveda Buddhism than Christianity.


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 Post subject: Re: Greetings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:51 am 
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Sister Mary Lisa wrote:
For me, I saw this post earlier and wondered who this is that he assumes everyone here will automatically know him by name alone?


Hmm. It's a mine field. This was meant for people who would know me. Not for people who should know me. A while ago, I was quite active on many LDS related boards, and so I figured there would be some peeps around here you would know me. I haven't been around for a long time. Hence, the, "yes it's me" as in "Been a long time, huh? Nice to see you again," not as in, "WOW, it's really me. Be impressed."

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:55 am 
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-Domokun- wrote:
You just proved my point that both mormons and Christians have that mindset. That's what I meant when I said


This goes far beyond Mormon Christian. It is, in a way, Western thinking -- Western logic. The kind of logic that adheres to non-contradiction. It's linear. But if that doesn't work for you, and you prefer the Eastern non-linar approach to thinking, which allows for A = non-A, then be a Buddhist.


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voodew wrote:
Now don't you go overreacting, jesus, what's this world coming too.

Not everybody is notched up.


I didn't mean "notched up" as in angry or flustered or impassioned (which I don't think anyone here is), I meant "notched up" as in not being civil, courteous, respectful, kind, etc. of which there has been plenty on this thread. Frankly, I'm rather disappointed that this is the best welcome the FLAK regulars can give.

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 Post subject: Re: Greetings
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:58 am 
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For me, I saw this post earlier and wondered who this is that he assumes everyone here will automatically know him by name alone?


Hmm. It's a mine field. This was meant for people who would know me. Not for people who should know me. A while ago, I was quite active on many LDS related boards, and so I figured there would be some peeps around here you would know me. I haven't been around for a long time. Hence, the, "yes it's me" as in "Been a long time, huh? Nice to see you again," not as in, "WOW, it's really me. Be impressed."

:headshake:


Fair enough. That's nice to know, because I didn't know until you explained. Welcome to FLAK.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:02 am 
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solistics wrote:
voodew wrote:
Now don't you go overreacting, jesus, what's this world coming too.

Not everybody is notched up.


Frankly, I'm rather disappointed that this is the best welcome the FLAK regulars can give.


rabanes showed very poor form with equality, plain and simple, and people have a right to respond to that. Be disappointed all you want, it is human to back up your friends when some new person gets all passive aggressive and shitty on their 5th post. You could save your disappointment and give the people involved more credit. Give the thread a chance to work itself out before you go all kindergarten cop on everybody


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voodew wrote:
passive aggressive and shitty on their 5th post


dang. passive aggressive? shitty? man, I'm really at a loss. I bulleted exactly where Equal had said things that sounded a bit heated, and all I did in my response was to ask him to "take it down a notch" because to me he sounded angry. Then, I went on to point out where he had erred in his interpretation of my book title. Finally, I ended with saying I didn't want to fight, that we would "hopefully learn from each other."

How in the world is that "passive aggressive and shitty"? I'm really taken aback by these responses. Ah well. I wish you all the best.


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Let me step in and say that I have had both on and off board communications with Richard over the past several years, and I have found him to be a gentleman and extremely polite in his interactions with me.

Everyone - Richard, me, everyone else...step back and look - this is not what FLAK was founded for. This is a forum. A forum where alternate ideas are welcomed, and discussed.

Now can't we all get along?

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RicoBabalu wrote:
I have found him to be a gentleman and extremely polite in his interactions with me.


Now can't we all get along?

:-D


he doesnt even have an avatar. sheesh, think about it, he doesnt have an avatar.

i think if he comes back with an avatar things will be better.

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Mayan Elephant wrote:
RicoBabalu wrote:
I have found him to be a gentleman and extremely polite in his interactions with me.


Now can't we all get along?

:-D


he doesnt even have an avatar. sheesh, think about it, he doesnt have an avatar.

i think if he comes back with an avatar things will be better.


Unless his avatar contains photos of Equality that he'd not want posted on an avatar...then all hell will break loose.

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Sister Mary Lisa wrote:
Unless his avatar contains photos of Equality that he'd not want posted on an avatar...then all hell will break loose.


If that happens, I'm leaving and I'm never coming back! I swear!

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solistics wrote:
Sister Mary Lisa wrote:
Unless his avatar contains photos of Equality that he'd not want posted on an avatar...then all hell will break loose.


If that happens, I'm leaving and I'm never coming back! I swear!

;)

Now where have I heard THAT before?? Puhleez.

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rabanes wrote:
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passive aggressive and shitty on their 5th post


dang. passive aggressive? shitty? man, I'm really at a loss. I bulleted exactly where Equal had said things that sounded a bit heated, and all I did in my response was to ask him to "take it down a notch" because to me he sounded angry. Then, I went on to point out where he had erred in his interpretation of my book title. Finally, I ended with saying I didn't want to fight, that we would "hopefully learn from each other."

How in the world is that "passive aggressive and shitty"? I'm really taken aback by these responses. Ah well. I wish you all the best.


Dumpster Doodle, is that you? If this is my friend Poser, all I can say is, Man, you crack my shit up.

If this really is Richard, then I'm willing to chalk this up to an unfortunate difference of perception. Hey Dick, (can I call you Dick or do you prefer Richard?) I can easily forget these perceived slights. Forgive and forget, right? It aint no big thang.

Wanna move on?

Earlier you said the bible was silent on masturbation. Didn't jesus say something about lusting after another (akin to committing adultery in ones heart)? Can you explain more fully your personal take on masturbation in light of what jesus said?

(seriously poser, you crack my shit up!)

(I'm having major deja vu)


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