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22 years out of mormonism, peacefully engaged in universalism, I now see my adult children having to have their names removed. Apparently they've made it harder than what another site suggested. It's no wonder one is a buddhist, and one is an atheist, and I'm totally kosher with that. And my poor died in the wool father of a mormon who's now 88, has finally read all my research and agrees with me, but stays with the church because the institution benefits him greatly, protecting him from his bitch of a wife six years my senior. But I did digress. I've felt the need to apologize to my children for bringing them up, until they were teens, in the church, that treated them poorly. You see, they are biracial, and when I made my daughter go to camp, I had no idea someday she'd be seeing a shrink for the PTSD that resulted from that putrid experience. And leaders saw it!!! My son, was disallowed from passing the sacrament because his hair was too long. Oh, but gorgeous, and he and I both had the same goal. A marvelous ponytail, that grew to his butt. I still feel pangs of guilt when I think about the crap other blonde blue eyed kids dished out to mine. It sickens me. I suppose there are lots of biracials by now, what with blacks having the priesthood and all. Anybody know about that ?

Hi Pollypinks, welcome to the site..I know of at least 1 bi-racial couple in the ward that I used to belong to..but then I wasn't at church that long, so maybe there were more in the stake that I just didn't meet.

Looking forward to hearing your views regarding the church etc. Hope you enjoy it here

Same thing happened to me. Son used to pass the sacrament every Sunday in our tiny branch where maybe 60 folks attended SM. One day, an couple who "founded" that branch returned from their temple mission and the BP was apparently fearful that "things had gotten out of hand" in his branch, so the BP no longer allowed my son to pass the sacrament.

There is enmity between me and TSCC - it used to have power to bruise my heel, but I now have power to crush the mind-controlling tactics they tried to place in my head.

Welcome to FLAK!

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It's good to talk about these things and to sort out the messed up mindfuck we were in.
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Pollypinks wrote:



All I know about this .. is My son ( white, like me ) used to hang around a black girl. I had zero problems with her. She was nice and all, and could play basketball We could play horse every once in a while But my son and her went separate ways, different schools, etc. But are still friends.

My daughters used to date some black guys. I had zero problems with that too. My youngest now is dating a filipino guy . He treats her well and they have fun together. That is all that matters. The guys treat my girls right and my son is treated well by his girlfriends.

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TG and happy to be so.

I have a tbm friend whose teenage son got an emergency phone call one Thursday night from a friend in their stake. It seems that this friend was in the YM's presidency in the stake and knew of a family his ward where the girl had a prom date for the following night, Friday. She already had her dress, the whole nine yards. The girl's date was a kid in yet another ward whom the parents had never met. But he's a nice active mormon boy, right? His bishop vouched for him, blah, blah, blah. So everything's cool. But then, on that very day, the day before the prom, the girl's parents find out that their daughter's date is black. All hell breaks loose and she is commanded to break her date with the black boy. She is, of course, massively upset. So this AP adviser is brought in to trouble shoot. Help us find the girl a date, a nice white boy to take her to the prom.

They call my friend's son and ask if he would be willing to go with the girl to her prom. He's already been to the prom at his own school and he hardly knows the girl, but they're offering to pay for a very deluxe evening if he will take her. So he says sure, let me ask my dad.

So my friend said he almost said forget it, you can't go, when he heard the whole story. He finally decided that would be punishing the girl as much as anything and said it would be OK. But first he sat his boy down and gave him an earful about why the whole situation was crap.

Funny, I wonder if they tried to find a nice black girl for the jilted boy to go to prom with. Somehow, I doubt it.

Meh. If you ask me, they're not mixing it up very much, as a general rule. This kind of attitude still reigns.

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The apple cannot be stuck back on the Tree of Knowledge; once we begin to see, we are doomed and challenged to seek the strength to see more, not less. ~ Arthur Miller

What a sad story - incredible. Reading that story, I felt like this was something that only used to happen when folks were wearing overalls without shirts, the typical weed chewin', pre 8 track, milk bottles on the front porch, George Wallace lovin', we're in Alabama so we marry our cousin fucked up shit.

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It's good to talk about these things and to sort out the messed up mindfuck we were in.
- SIMS

I totally see the parents point here. After all, the boy had the mark of Cain. Regardless of the article of faith that says men are punished for thier own transgressions and not for their fathers, this boy was still clearly evil. If the boy were truly righteous and deserving of taking their daughter to prom, his skin would have changed color, and he would have become "white and delightsome." Mormon scientists at BYU will one day prove that DNA changes when you truly accept JS and JC, and you become pale and more susceptible to sunburns (because you are finally letting the light of christ into your body?).

Mormon geneticist will prove this just like mormon researchers at FARMS have proven the BOM to be true through archeology and history.

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I would be agnostic, but I have a commitment problem.

LOL Reuben

Seriously tho, Belaja, that really is a sad story, and terrible of the parents to do that to the couple..I wonder too, about the effort being made to find a nice black girl for the black guy to take to the prom...terrible!