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Where you raised/taught things that you interpreted as doctrine but are not officially canonized?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:33 am 
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leftofcentre wrote:
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I was taught that Satan had dominion over the water. My mom later told me that was NEVER taught and isn't doctrine (bullshit). Fucked me up for swimming in the sea when I was younger. Now I don't swim in the sea because of the jellyfish. Also, there's a lot of uncanonized doctrine about a woman's worthiness being associated with motherhood and the amount of children she bears.



Isn't that bit about Satan and the waters in the D&C? I think it is. So it's doctrine. Give me a break. Never taught. Bullshit indeed.


Yeah, it probably is in the D&C. Shows you how much I read the damn books, eh?


So, in other words, Satan is Neptune?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 2:19 am 
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jbsaxman wrote:
Were you taught things (being a convert) that were interpreted as unofficial canon or doctrine?

Please give some examples.

I know of several people who have died - some were old, some healthy middle-aged, some were young. The causes of death varied from cancer to brain hemorrhage to being accidentally shot - all sorts of things happened to these folks. Each time, every time, the "answer" for the person passing away was that god needed that person on the other side, that their journey on this side of the veil was satisfactory and accomplished.

I don't think I ever truly believed that but it was a blanket answer, covering all questions about death and I am doubtful this "blanket answer" is something the LDS scriptures support, although frankly, I couldn't care less what they claim to believe partly because those beliefs have been changed and continue to change.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:33 pm 
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It's not just the woman's worthiness about how many children she spawns, but the man's as well. They need all those children to keep them company in heaven. Lordy lordy, I did so enjoy my time when my teen aged children were away from the house!! Had no problem entertaining myself whatsoever, so the notion that we need to make extra people to entertain us in heaven is a bit of a stretch, actually. And whose vagina is stretched for that purpose anyway?? Ahem.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:57 pm 
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Yup. I know that because it's in the missionary 'white bible' to explain why you're not allowed to go swimming or onto boats (I took a boat out to Chateau d'If (man in the iron mask prison) on P-Day once and nearly went hysterical with fear that satan was going to swallow the boat up into the depths to keep my companion and me from harvesting the field.

Oh damn I was dumb.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:57 am 
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cumom wrote:
Yup. I know that because it's in the missionary 'white bible' to explain why you're not allowed to go swimming or onto boats (I took a boat out to Chateau d'If (man in the iron mask prison) on P-Day once and nearly went hysterical with fear that satan was going to swallow the boat up into the depths to keep my companion and me from harvesting the field.

Oh damn I was dumb.



Yup. Even proximity to water turns missionaries evil. A bunch of us girls went to the beach on P-day once and took turns taking pictures of each other doing mock baptisms. Gasp. GIRLS. Pretending to do PRIESTHOOD things.

I just thought it was funny until I got home and was showing my family the mission pictures. There's one of me with my hand to the square while one of my ex-comps is plugging her nose in preparation for the plunge. There's another one of me carefully starting to lower her backward into the water. There's another one of me about to go down (snerk) myself.

My mother's horror and disapproval was so thick you could have insulated your house with it. That's when I realized that just standing in that ankle deep surf had put me into Satan's power. And look where I've ended up.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:32 pm 
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Does the healing of same-sex attraction count as canonized? I grew up under the impression that if I had enough faith, then my future husband would someday cure me of those "unnatural inclinations." Also, I believed that madness could be cured by the priesthood, provided everyone had enough faith and the stars were aligned and all that. Sadly, I was mistaken.
It frustrates me the lack of doctrine involving those that are, well, insane. If disabled people are special, can't crazy people be special, too?
Btw, my brother suffers from asperger's syndrome and is considered a special spirit, which basically means that people can come up to him and talk down to him in order to get brownie points in heaven for their special consideration to the disabled. That's another frustration for me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:46 am 
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In my youth in the church, I was taught that I was the chosen generation. Saved for this time to come down and help usher in the millennium. That there were even temple workers in the Oakland temple that were promised by a GA that they would live to see the second coming. There folks with in their 60s and 70s during the 1970s when I heard this. Well, many years have come and gone, not to mention a couple of generations, and no second coming.

I feel cheated. I was told I was the chosen generation damn it. They even wrote a song about it.


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