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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:28 pm 
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By Helen Radkey © Copyright 2010, Helen Radkey June 1, 2010


Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.

According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)

New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”

On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”

“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”

While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.

Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.

Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.

On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”

Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.

LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.

Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.


© Copyright 2010, Helen Radkey—Permission is granted to reproduce, provided content is not changed and this copyright notice is included.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:42 pm 
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So Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist but that ain't enough for Mormons? One wonder how far can they go with this craziness... I always thought baptisms for the death were a waste of time, $ and resources. If there was a God, who is fair, why would he require such thing? If people is dead he can deal with them "on the other side". Why bother alive ones with this crap?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:48 pm 
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According to "Jesus the Christ" his real name was Joshua. So why not use that name to get around the Jesus Christ block?

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If there is a computer block on "Jesus" and "Christ", which there may well be although personally I know nothing about it, how do these names get past the new names and the veil?

The thought of getting Jesus necro-dunked (and maybe Paul of Tarsus as well) does lead to some interesting possibilities. How about submitting a load of fictitious people with silly names (e.g. Hugh Janus, Wayne Kerr, Donna Kebab) for temple rituals? Might be a bit of fun!

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Hahaha Aspie...am I right in thinking only a Brit could come up with those particular false names? :-D


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The stupidity! It burns!! :eyerolls:

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This church is so fucked up it's unreal! :shock: :hammer: :hit:

How about someone submitting Joshua ben Joseph? or Yeshua ben Hoses? :roll:

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What happened to the whole rule about only submitting names for family members? Or is that only for Holocaust survivors?


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Liberal Mormon wrote:
This church is so fucked up it's unreal! :shock: :hammer: :hit:

... :roll:



but What Can They Do?

i.e. they've fenced themselves in with Sillyness, they're in the Classic PAINTED CORNER.

Is there any or No way out?

Is Mormonism fixed in Concrete?
Remember: They've done wonders with changes before...

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Did I ever mention the time when I was browsing around on family search and hooked into a line that went way back into antiquity (one line hooked into minor nobility back in, like, 1600 or something and that eventually led into royal lines). I just kept clicking back in time and back in time (and you know how those old-timey royals liked to make up their genealogy)--and eventually, through some Scandinavian chieftain line I got back to a record for one "Odin (aka Wodin, Wodan, Wotan)."

Yes, peeps, I am descended from the top god of the Viking Pantheon and his wife Freya (on some records known as "Mrs. Odin.") I am not making this up.

I believe they have sealed Odin and Mrs. Odin together, just in case. Since it was just the direct descent lines, of course, I couldn't tell if Thor, god of thunder, or Loki, god of Jim Carrey in The Mask, were sealed to their parents--Odin and Mrs. Odin.

For there are gods many and lords many....

:rolleyes:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:52 am 
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This needs to get posted far and wide. It'd be a hoot. Do we have permission to x-post this material?

ETA: Christ, that was supposed to be a PM. Time to sober up.

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belaja wrote:
Did I ever mention the time when I was browsing around on family search and hooked into a line that went way back into antiquity (one line hooked into minor nobility back in, like, 1600 or something and that eventually led into royal lines). I just kept clicking back in time and back in time (and you know how those old-timey royals liked to make up their genealogy)--and eventually, through some Scandinavian chieftain line I got back to a record for one "Odin (aka Wodin, Wodan, Wotan)."

Yes, peeps, I am descended from the top god of the Viking Pantheon and his wife Freya (on some records known as "Mrs. Odin.") I am not making this up.

I believe they have sealed Odin and Mrs. Odin together, just in case. Since it was just the direct descent lines, of course, I couldn't tell if Thor, god of thunder, or Loki, god of Jim Carrey in The Mask, were sealed to their parents--Odin and Mrs. Odin.

For there are gods many and lords many....

:rolleyes:

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belaja wrote:
Did I ever mention the time when I was browsing around on family search and hooked into a line that went way back into antiquity (one line hooked into minor nobility back in, like, 1600 or something and that eventually led into royal lines). I just kept clicking back in time and back in time (and you know how those old-timey royals liked to make up their genealogy)--and eventually, through some Scandinavian chieftain line I got back to a record for one "Odin (aka Wodin, Wodan, Wotan)."

Yes, peeps, I am descended from the top god of the Viking Pantheon and his wife Freya (on some records known as "Mrs. Odin.") I am not making this up.

I believe they have sealed Odin and Mrs. Odin together, just in case. Since it was just the direct descent lines, of course, I couldn't tell if Thor, god of thunder, or Loki, god of Jim Carrey in The Mask, were sealed to their parents--Odin and Mrs. Odin.

For there are gods many and lords many....

:rolleyes:


Hi Belaja,
Do the records show who submitted all these names?
If it was a family members you have either:

a) crazy TBM blood in your veins

b) crazy (the good kind) NOM blood in your veins

:lol:

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circus watcher wrote:
belaja wrote:
Did I ever mention the time when I was browsing around on family search and hooked into a line that went way back into antiquity (one line hooked into minor nobility back in, like, 1600 or something and that eventually led into royal lines). I just kept clicking back in time and back in time (and you know how those old-timey royals liked to make up their genealogy)--and eventually, through some Scandinavian chieftain line I got back to a record for one "Odin (aka Wodin, Wodan, Wotan)."

Yes, peeps, I am descended from the top god of the Viking Pantheon and his wife Freya (on some records known as "Mrs. Odin.") I am not making this up.

I believe they have sealed Odin and Mrs. Odin together, just in case. Since it was just the direct descent lines, of course, I couldn't tell if Thor, god of thunder, or Loki, god of Jim Carrey in The Mask, were sealed to their parents--Odin and Mrs. Odin.

For there are gods many and lords many....

:rolleyes:


Hi Belaja,
Do the records show who submitted all these names?
If it was a family members you have either:

a) crazy TBM blood in your veins

b) crazy (the good kind) NOM blood in your veins

:lol:


Oh, I think I have a bit of both. LOL. 8)

ETA: I don't know who it was. I didn't check. But I think they don't let you submit anything earlier than about 1500. My understanding was that anything earlier, the church genealogists have to do.

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ruoutthere wrote:
belaja wrote:
Did I ever mention the time when I was browsing around on family search and hooked into a line that went way back into antiquity (one line hooked into minor nobility back in, like, 1600 or something and that eventually led into royal lines). I just kept clicking back in time and back in time (and you know how those old-timey royals liked to make up their genealogy)--and eventually, through some Scandinavian chieftain line I got back to a record for one "Odin (aka Wodin, Wodan, Wotan)."

Yes, peeps, I am descended from the top god of the Viking Pantheon and his wife Freya (on some records known as "Mrs. Odin.") I am not making this up.

I believe they have sealed Odin and Mrs. Odin together, just in case. Since it was just the direct descent lines, of course, I couldn't tell if Thor, god of thunder, or Loki, god of Jim Carrey in The Mask, were sealed to their parents--Odin and Mrs. Odin.

For there are gods many and lords many....

:rolleyes:

I bow in your presence Oh Great ONE!


Haha. You may rise now. I think this explains the secret desire I have to wear those helmets with the horns on them.

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