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[Phouchg]

homophobic blog post


What. An. Ass.


fook
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-Phouchg

[Equality]

My comment (which may or may not survive over there):
I can think of one similarity between the Civil Rights Movement and the Gay Rights Movement--the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints vigorously opposed both.
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[Logos]

[cumom]

Ignorance hurts my head.

[Subversive Asset 2.0]

I'm personally tired of people saying the civil rights movement and gay rights movement are totally and completely different.

The fact that we as a society are not discriminatory in such barbaric ways as we were in the past (the link posted put a laundry list of differences in the way blacks were treated pre-civil rights that would not relate to today's struggles) does not change the heart of discrimination...and it is the heart that is being fought.

I cannot believe someone would even purse their lips to say something like, "Gays don't have to go to separate schools," without realizing the impact. Not separate schools or drinking fountains, perhaps, but the ENTIRE issue is that we have separate, but seemingly equal institutions: marriage and civil unions/domestic partnerships. And people are so quick to point out, "Well, look, in CA, they have all the same state rights and privileges as marriage; it's just under a different name."

But this was PRECISELY the issue with separate but equal. Even though we have a seeming legal equality, the very fact that people call them different names (and FIGHT for the privilege of keeping the two institutions named separate things) is VERY telling. If people TRULY felt civil unions were "equal" to marriage, they would have no problem with calling them all marriages...or with calling them all civil unions. But the fact that people hold marriage to this sacred regard really PROVES that these people don't even buy their own argument about equality.

Not to mention the states that ban marriage AND marriage-like unions (protip: most states don't even allow for civil unions). Not to mention federal statutes that give zilch to gay couples.

Really, this is how I see it...yes, a lot of black people voted for prop 8. But to claim that this is because they were black and that this is sign of a fundamental difference between civil rights and gay rights is entirely racialist (don't know if racist...) People fail to look at all other social variables. Instead, this is what I see. Conservatively religious people vote overwhelming against marriage equality. Black people tend to culturally be conservatively religious. It has nothing to do with race or any actual difference in the struggles...really, it tells us more about religion.
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[truebutnotuseful]

[Chino Blanco]

Guy is in too deep ...

He's too invested in the confusion to be of any use in a discussion.

During the campaign, he set up a new website and front-paged folks who spout the same rhetoric as MassResistance and other anti-gay hate groups.

On some level, I gotta believe he understands that he's doing little more than mocking gay and lesbian relationships with his constant "genderless marriage" refrain ... Actually, that's me still trying to be nice ... I'm sure he knows and just doesn't care that it's a hateful schtick.

[jbsaxman]

I started to make a reply.

But I decided not to. It's pointless.

If this bozo wants to think we're all gay and lesbian then let him.
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It's so easy, even a Lamanite could do it!!

[Runtu]

Yeah, that was pretty funny that he linked here as the place where the gay and lesbian community responded.

Here's one married father of six who thinks the guy is an idiot.
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[OnePartPerBillion]

[Babblonian]

Please, Mormons, dig in on this issue and fight the good fight.

It's just one more thing the missionaries are going to spend generations trying to justify.

[MagicCicero]